You Asked For It #3: What is Sin & Why Do I Still Struggle With It?

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Here’s the audio for the message

On Sunday, January 24 we continued in our third You Asked For It message with the question “What is sin & why do I still struggle with it?” This blog post will go into more depth than we were able to on Sunday.  There also many additional resources for further study.

Let’s look at both parts of our larger question: (1) What is sin? and (2) why do I still struggle with it?  We’ll look at each question biblically by looking at appropriate passages in the Bible, doctrinally by exploring key theological idea or theme associate with the question and the bible passages, and then we’ll address each each question practically with how it relates to your life each and every day.

Question #1: What is Sin?

  • Biblically. As we address this first question biblically, we’ll look at two passages: Genesis 3:1-7 shows us the introduction of human sin into the story of God, and then in Romans 5:12, the Apostle Paul explains the dire implications and consequences of the sin that is introduced in Genesis 3:1-7.
    • Genesis 3:1-7.  The story has 3 scenes: (1) vv. 1-7: The serpent’s temptation and Adam and Eve’s tragic response; (2) vv. 8-19: The consequences of their decision – alienation with God, with each other, and with all of creation; and (3) vv. 20-24: Banishment from the Garden and separation from God.  For the purposes of exploring the introduction of sin into the larger story of God, let’s focus on Scene 1.
      • Scene 1 (vv. 1-7). Satan enters the garden in the form of a serpent to tempt Adam and Eve to distrust and disregard the word of God, and our first parents take the bait and rebel against God by disobeying His command.
        • The serpent is Satan.  At some point in the story, after the creation of angelic beings and likely before the rest of creation begins, there is a war in heaven.  Lucifer (a.k.a., Satan) who was one of the chief angels, is extremely proud and wants to be God.  So he stages a cosmic coup with a third of the angels in heaven.  Revelation 12:7-9, in the last book in the Bible, strangely enough gives a picture of what happens at the beginning of the story. So Satan, disguised as a serpent, enters the garden, and begins the “disastrous dialogue” with Eve.  And here’s the bottom line on what Satan does as he tempts Eve and ultimately Adam to “sin.”
        • Genesis 3:1 – Satan in his accusatory question casts doubt on the provision and goodness of God. He tempts Eve (and quite possibly Adam if he’s standing there with her) to believe that there was some greater good that God was withholding from them.  He basically says, “If God really loved you, He’d be much more generous. He’s holding out on you!”
        • Genesis 3:4 – And then Satan blatantly calls God a liar! The bait is laid out… and the temptation and what will become the essence of sin is this… unfaith.  Eve’s choice right now is to trust and have faith in the full love, provision, and goodness of God or she can choose to believe that God is holding out on her or that she can do it better than He can.
        • Every temptation is a question of faith and trust. Will what is offered to me in this temptation satisfy me more than God can?  Will God really take care of me or do I need to take matters in my own hands?  Is God really good and will He do what is best for me?  Every temptation is a question of trust.  And every sin that results from failing in temptation is an expression of unfaith.  When we sin, we choose unfaith and we choose to do it our way. When we sin, we rebel from God… His character, His heart, His provision, His grace, His goodness.  We choose to think that something else other than God will satisfy us (we call that idolatry).  We choose to take matters into our own hands because we don’t think He’s fully and finally the highest good nor the greatest treasure.  Sin at its core is unfaith.
        • So back to the story… Eve chooses unfaith… the essence of sin.  She “delighted” in (lit., coveted) the fruit and thought that she knew better than God. And then she took the fruit and gave it to her husband. And Adam then chooses Eve over God… his move of sin and unfaith was that he believed that Eve would satisfy him more that God would.
      • Romans 5:12. All of Romans 5 is about the results of justification… the results of what Jesus Christ did for us on and through the cross so that we might be restored back into perfect relationship with God.  So as Paul explains the story, he’s got to go back to what Adam did to destroy the relationship.
        • “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned”
        • The key phrase in this verse is “so death spread to all men, because all sinned.”  Sin and death spread to all humanity because in Adam we all sinned.  Paul is not talking about sin as an action or a pattern of behavior.  Paul does address our sinful actions in other places in Romans where he clearly says that we commit actions of sin and that none of us are “sinless” (cf. Romans 3:10-18, 23)
        • Two interpretations of what happened when Adam sinned: Realism or Representative
          • Realism. When Adam sinned, we really sinned along with him.  We are all “co-sinners” with Adam.  John Murray writes, “In brief, the position is that human nature in its unindividualized unity existed in its entirety in Adam, that, when Adam sinned, not only did he sin but also the common nature which existed in its unity in him, and that since each person who comes into this world is an individualization of this one human nature, each person as an ‘individualized portion’ of that common nature is both culpable and punishable for the sin committed by that unity.”
          • Representative (also known as Federalism). The Representative view does not see a common human nature exemplified in Adam, but it sees Adam as our “covenantal” or “federal” head.  Because he represented humanity, his guilt is imputed (charged to our account) to us. Paul’s comparison between Adam and Christ  favors federalism over realism. Our sin was charged to Christ’s account, and once he paid the price for our sin, His righteousness was imputed or charged to our account.  Because of Adam’s sin, we have inherited guilt.  However, because of Christ’s death and resurrection, we have inherited righteousness through salvation.  S. Lewis Johnson writes, “Since we have fallen in a representative, it is much easier to see why we may be restored through a representative… We fell through no personal fault of our own;  we rise through no personal merit of our own.”
          • Some of us will undoubtedly say, “that isn’t fair… Adam sinned and rebelled against God, and I get the consequences.”  Here’s how I respond to that (and perhaps I’m evading the question some here)… we don’t like having Adam’s sin and death charged to our account, but we sure like the idea of having Jesus as our “representative” on the cross, dying in our place, freely receiving His righteousness and perfection which is charged to our account… more on that in a moment.
        • A Brief Historical Excursion on Augustine & Pelagius.  In the fifth century AD, Augustine, the bishop of Hippo, and Pelagius, a British ascetic monk, had one of the Church’s most heated debates.  Pelagius believed human nature was not affected when Adam sinned.  Since man was unchanged in his nature after Adam’s sin, there is no such thing as “original sin.”  All persons are capable of holy behavior apart from the grace of God.  Pelagius wrote, “We do either good or evil only by our own will; since we always remain capable of both, we are always free to do either” (Letter to Demetrius 8). Even if a person struggles with sin, it is to be seen as an issue of will, not nature.  Pelagius agreed with Augustine that God had made humans free and that this freedom was the source of evil.  Pelagius went further though by suggesting this freedom made it possible for one to overcome sin by their own merit. Augustine on the contrary, saw the Fall in Genesis 3 as a watershed in human history.  He believed that human nature was changed dramatically and now fallen (i.e., depravity) because of Adam’s sin.  Augustine’s view was that left to ourselves, we will not obey. Fallen people, he argued, have a bent toward evil, and they will perform evil unless moved by God to do good. Pelagius’ views were condemned at the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD.  For further study (if you’re brave enough), read B.B. Warfield’s extensive “Introductory Essay on Augustin and the Pelagian Controversy.” You can also access many other articles on the controversy here.
  • Doctrinally. So as we’ve looked briefly at two biblical passages on sin, let’s take a moment to talk about the implications of sin from a “doctrinal” viewpoint.  When we address the question “what is sin?” we come to the doctrine of total depravity. The doctrine of total depravity says that we are as bad off as we can possibly be.  The doctrine of depravity has to do, not with our estimation of ourselves, but rather with God’s estimation of us.  The doctrine of depravity tells me that sin is not something that is outside of me… it is a power and principle that is at work inside of me… and it affects and impacts every part of my being… my mind and intellect, my heart and emotions, my will and choices, and my physical body.  It means that apart from God’s gracious intervention, my default will be to choose myself and my desires every time.  Here’s how Jesus put it in Mark 7:20-23.

For further study on the Doctrine of Total Depravity:

“Total Depravity – Is is Biblical?”

“Total Depravity” by John Piper & the Bethelehem Baptist Church Staff

  • Practically. We are in desperate need of a Savior! We are helpless and hopeless without the grace and mercy of God.  And that grace and mercy, that help and hope, comes through the person and work of Jesus Christ, God Himself.  The rest of the story is in Romans 5:18-19.  In the same way that death entered through the disobedience of one man, Adam, life enters back into the story through the obedience of One Man, the God-Man Jesus Christ.  Jesus through His death on the cross rescues humanity from death because He died in our place… as our representative (and once again, we like that kind of representation).  There’s no way back to God without God taking the initiative to bring us back to Him… through Jesus Christ.  He is the Rescuer… He is the Redeemer who purchases us from death, the penalty and wages of sin

For further resources and study about the doctrine of sin:

Dr. Wayne Grudem’s lectures on the Doctrine of Sin

John MacArthur – “What is Sin?” (exposition of Genesis 3:1-7)

Question #2: Why Do I Still Struggle With It?

  • Biblically. We believe that Jesus died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sin.  We believe (at least intellectually) that we are a new creation, seen as blameless and righteous because of what Jesus did to “impute” or charge righteousness to our life account.  But many days, it just doesn’t feel like it… we struggle with temptation and sin.  We struggle to do the “right” thing… and most of us feel horrible when we do the wrong thing and engage in sin.  Listen, you’re not alone… here’s how Paul explains the tension, confusion, and desperation of this struggle with sin.
    • Romans 7:14-25. This passage is set within a much larger discussion of the struggle with sin and the reality that Jesus Christ has died in our place, as our representative, and how we understand and live in this new life.  I highly encourage you to regularly read, study, meditate, and pray through Romans 6-8.  Back to 7:14-25.  Paul’s bottom line is this… when we try to overcome the power of sin and our flesh in our own effort, we will always experience failure and frustration.  Paul goes back to the reality and doctrine of depravity. Verse 15 sums it up for me (and here’s my paraphrase): “as a follower of Jesus, I want to do the right thing, but I don’t.  And the sinful things I do, I absolutely hate!”  Paul talks about the power of sin and the flesh inside of us that thwarts us living rightly and righteously.  v. 18 – “nothing good dwells in me, that is in my flesh.”
      • The flesh is a built-in law of failure, making it impossible for the natural man to please or serve God. It is a compulsive inner force inherited from man’s fall, which expresses itself in general and specific rebellion against God and His righteousness. The flesh can never be reformed or improved. The only hope for escape from the law of the flesh is its total execution and replacement by a new life in the Lord Jesus Christ.
      • David Dockery’s “Romans 7:14-25: Pauline Tension in the Christian Life”
    • Romans 8:1-4. And this tension causes us to feel helpless and hopeless… it causes us to cry out in desperation, “wretched man that I am!”  But there’s a transition coming in the passage… a hope glimmering on the horizon… help has come!  There is not merely defeat because of sin, there’s condemnation and death because of sin… my condition and my actions.  But because of Jesus’ death acting as my representative, I am no longer condemned.  And now Paul starts talking about Jesus’ provision and power for us to move forward in our new life with Him… the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit, God Himself, the Third Person of the Trinity, is the one who empowers us, changes us, takes up residence within us, so that we might walk in this newness of life.  We cannot experience victory and freedom from sin it in our own effort… but we can through the power of the Holy Spirit.
  • Doctrinally. So when we talk about greater victory over the power of sin within us and transformation through the power of the Holy Spirit within us, doctrinally and theologically, we are talking about sanctification.  The word sanctification means “to be set apart, to be holy” and by implication “to be and live rightly and righteously.” There are several aspects to sanctification.
    • Positional. 1 Corinthians 1:2. Here is a completed work… we have been set apart as God’s possession.  There is a finality to the work.
    • Experiential (or Progressive)Romans 12:1-2. John 17:17. 2 Corinthians 3:18.  Dwight Pentecost in Things Which Become Sound Doctrine writes this, “Our position before God is that we are sanctified, set apart unto God; our experience is that we are being sanctified in daily life, by the Spirit’s power, as we grow in grace and in knowledge, and as we are controlled by the Spirit.”
    • Ultimate (or Prospective). 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24. Philippians 1:6. 1 John 3:2. Our experience of being transformed to live, look, and love more like Jesus (i.e., learning more and more to be imitators of Christ), will finally, fully, and forever be conformed to our position throughout eternity in heaven.
    • More great audio resources and lectures on the Doctrine of Sanctification
  • Practically. So as we have looked at the doctrine of sanctification, what does this mean for us practically, as we live life daily in, with, and through Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit?
    • We are in desperate need of the Spirit! Sanctification, transformation, and a growing victory over the power of sin in our lives happens in this “collaborative” and “cooperative” process as we yield, submit, and surrender ourselves to the authority and power of God the Spirit.  Even Paul couldn’t overcome the power of sin and his flesh through his own strength… through trying to be a good person… through trying to obey the righteous requirements and expectations of God.  So he gives us the answer… the power of the Holy Spirit, God Himself living in and through us… sanctifying and transforming us to be more like Jesus Christ.
    • The Process of Freedom. Here are a couple of key aspects for us to consider in the process of sanctification… what I have called “the process of freedom.”
      • Confession. It begins with confession, as I am honest before God and honest with myself.  It begins as I confess and admit my sin, my rebellion, my desire to have things my way… my continual desire for control… always believing that I can do it better than God… confessing my “unfaith” in Him.
      • Repentance. Confession must move to repentance: a 180º turning from my sin and turning to Jesus and His Holy Spirit.  Repentance requires taking in a whole new point of view… a view of looking at life God’s way. It’s a complete reversal of my attitudes, actions, and values.
      • Transformation. And as we regularly keep short accounts with God through confession and repentance, then transformation begins to happen. Jesus through the Holy Spirit is all about inviting us into the process of transformation in, with, and through Him.  And I believe that transformation is evidenced by an increasing desire for Jesus… an increasing desire to treasure Him above all else.
    • The treasure of Christ is greater than the pleasure of sin. In my relationship with Jesus, this is the only way that I’ve had an increasing victory over the power of sin in my life… through a growing desire to treasure Jesus Christ more than the pleasure of sin.  I’ve talked about this many times before, and I’m all about accountability in my struggles with sin… but it is only as I am enjoying Jesus more and more that I enjoy my sin less and less.  As I see Jesus for Who He fully is and I understand more and more what He has fully done on my behalf, as my representative, through His cross and resurrection… as I understand and experience more and more His great love for me and that He has given me the power and provision to change through the presence of the Holy Spirit… I begin desire Him more.  I long to see and savor Him above all else.  I treasure Him more than I treasure my sin.  And it is through begging Him to allow me to see His glory and greatness that I am transformed.  Hear me on this… I still struggle with sin… I’m far from perfect… but I taste victory more and more in my struggle with sin as I long through the Holy Spirit to see more and more of Jesus.  This is my prayer for you… that the treasure of Christ would be greater than the pleasure of sin!

If you’re “stuck” in patterns of destructive, sinful behavior, I want to encourage you to get help!  Northshore Baptist Church has a great ministry to help people move forward in their vision and experience of Jesus Christ.  You can confidentially contact our LIGHT Ministries to get help (via web or phone – 425 216-4432).  Please don’t let another day pass without getting some help.

Here are some books that I highly recommend for further ready and study about sin and sanctification

God is the Gospel by John Piper

Humanity & Sin by Robert Pyne

Not the Way It’s Supposed to Be: A Breviary of Sin by Cornelius Plantiga, Jr.

The Voice of Jesus by Gordon Smith

Secret Power by D. L. Moody

The Pursuit of Holiness by Jerry Bridges

Respectable Sins: Confronting the Sins We Tolerate by Jerry Bridges

Follow Me by Jan David Hettinga

Repentance by Richard Owen Roberts

You Asked For It #2: What’s the Rub Between the Bible & Science?

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Here’s the audio for “What’s the Rub Between the Bible & Science” (January 17, 2010)

This Sunday, we ventured into our second question of eight with “What’s the rub between the Bible and science?”  This is a hot topic “outside” and “inside” the Church.  This post will give further resources and address further issues that I did not have the time to explore on Sunday.

Here’s an important personal and pastoral disclaimer: the contents of this blog post are in no way an exhaustive discussion on the issue of origins.  I must also confess up front that I am not a trained scientist.  I do have a Bachelor of Science degree that focused on molecular biology and physiology within the field of horticulture, but I’m in no way an expert in any of the sciences involved in the larger discussion (biology, chemistry, genetics, astronomy, physics, etc.).  I am however, a “trained” theologian and pastor, so my specialty, if you will, is the Bible, with training in the original languages of Hebrew and Greek, as well as theology. All of that being said, I’m in no way an expert in this area either.  There are many theologians, biblical scholars, and pastors that I am indebted to as I’ve studied the issues of origins, faith, and science.

To help answer this big question, I posed three other questions:

1. How did all of this come to be?

2. How old is all of this?

3. So what?

So let’s take a look at these three questions:

QUESTION #1: How did all of this come to be? This is the ultimate issue of origins of life and the universe. There are three larger vantage points that attempt to answer this question:

  • Theistic Creation. Theistic creation sees the direct, dynamic, and integral hand of a Theistic Being (i.e., God) creating the heavens, the earth, and all of the life contained within them.  More on various viewpoints of theistic creation in a moment (see below).
  • Naturalistic Evolution. At the other end of the spectrum is naturalistic evolution, also known as Darwinian and Neo-Darwinian Evolution. Charles Darwin’s seminal work Origin of Species, published in 1859, attempts to explain how all living creatures have a common ancestor. There are two aspects of Naturalistic Evolution:

Pre-biotic evolutionbegins with “some warm little pond” (Darwin’s term) “in which appropriate organic compounds were exposed to light, heat, and electricity, eventually producing proteins” that combined with further chemical reactions, in which a single-celled organism ultimately resulted. This “pre-biotic soup” however has yet to be re-created, because there are numerous biochemical challenges to the emergence of life from this pre-biotic soup. Here’s a way to illustrate the challenge of pre-biotic evolution:

Imagine trying to find a blind date at a party filled with strangers.  Nobody can bring the two of you together, and neither of you knows what the other looks like.  Your only hope is to mingle and ask each person’s name.  If it is a small group of people, chances are that you will locate each other fairly quickly.  If the party filled a gymnasium, it would take a little more time.  But the party is not in a living room, or even in a crowded gymnasium… For all practical purposes, the two of you are lost among billions of other individuals… The unhappy prospect raises another important point.  If the blind dates don’t find each other, the party is as good as over (Robert Pyne, Humanity & Sin: The Creation, Fall, and Redemption of Humanity, 26)

Biological Evolution. In Darwin’s theory of natural selection, he believed that physical characteristics that organisms experienced during their lifetime could be passed to offspring.  This change continually occurs, and new species are created through mutations over time through natural selection whereby the best and most beneficial mutations survive (“survival of the fittest”).  Since Darwin did not have knowledge of genetics, Neo-Darwinists (scientists who have modified Darwin’s original theory) concede that natural selection must involve genetic changes, and these genetic changes are continually occurring.  There are some pretty big “gaps” or “missing links” in the fossil record, so some scientists have argued that an organism will rapidly change, and then the new, changed species will exist for some time until changes occur again.

For further reading see:

Charles Darwin’s On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.

Pre-biotic evolution (abiogenesis)

For an interesting read on new research on the Y chromosome differences between humans and chimpanzees

  • Theistic Evolution. In an effort to mediate the difficulty of the origination of that first single-celled organism that began the process of biological evolution, theistic evolution believes that only a Divine power could have “energized” or produced this pre-biotic soup.  According to most proponents of theistic evolution, God initiates the process by producing the matter and energies that will gradually develop into vegetable, animal, and eventually human life but refrains from asserting any divine intervention in the process of evolution. One of the most popular versions of theistic evolution is called Biologos as advocated by Francis Collins in his book The Language of God. Collins led the Human Genome Project and currently serves as the Director of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, MD. Collins also founded the Biologos Foundation, which emphasizes the compatibility of Christian faith with what science has discovered about the origins of the universe and life.  The ultimate challenge to Collin’s Biologos view is that he does not take the creation accounts in Genesis 1 or Genesis 2 as literal or historic as well as the unique creation of Adam and Eve as literal or historic.  This has all kinds of implications for sin and what the rest of the Bible has to say about sin and the remedy for sin.
  • Intelligent Design. A relative newcomer to the discussion is the theory of intelligent design.  Intelligent Design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as naturalistic evolution.  One of the primary voices within the Intelligent Design movement is Michael Behe, who contends that certain biological systems within organisms are irreducibly complex. Here’s the way Behe defines irreducibly complexity: “By irreducibly complex I mean a single system which is composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, and where the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning” (Michael Behe, Darwin’s Black Box, 39).  It’s interesting that Intelligent Design resources are chalked full of hard-core scientific research and processes, but still bookstores like Barnes & Noble (following the example of the National Academy of Science) put them in the religion section instead of the science section. Seems like there’s a hidden agenda in all of that…

Here are some further web resources for Intelligent Design:

Here’s an interesting dialogue between atheistic evolutionist Richard Dawkins (author of The God Delusion) and Ben Stein in Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

QUESTION #2: How old is all of this? If you turn on your TV to the Discovery Channel or open the average science textbook, the universe is approximately 14 billion years old and the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old.  If you talk with theistic creationists, you’ll get answers on the age of the universe and earth from 6,000 to 14 billion years old.  That’s quite a range! The two “camps” within theistic creationism are the young earth creationists and the old earth creationists.

Two more disclaimers:  (1) this seems to be much more of an intramural discussion among Christians… most “secular” scientists are not watching our sideline scrimmage about the age of the earth because they already rightly or wrongly assume a 14 billion year old universe and a 4.5 billion year old earth. (2) As we’ll discuss further in this question, conservative, Bible-believing evangelical theologians, pastors, and Christians who are committed to the inspiration and inerrancy of the Scriptures subscribe to both YEC and OEC views.  And as I said last week when I gave the ground-rules for this series, there’s room within Northshore for both of these views (i.e., we will not split Northshore over this issue).

  • Young Earth Creation (YEC). This view believes that the earth is somewhere between six and thirty thousand years old. In this model, God finished His creation in a literal six 24-hour days and then rested on the seventh day.  He created distinct “kinds,” thereby ruling out “common descent.”  YEC see the geological data that others use to prove the earth’s longer history as evidence of a universal flood in Noah’s days in what is called “flood geology.”
  • Old Earth Creation (OEC). Old Earth Creation is an umbrella term for a number of views of theistic creationism. This view is typically more compatible with mainstream scientific thought on the issues of age of the earth while still taking the accounts of creation in Genesis more literally and at the same time, rejecting macro-evolution that changes in organisms result in other species.
  • Key Interpretive issues in Genesis 1 and 2.

Genesis 1. Within interpretation of the creation account in Genesis 1, there are several exegetical and theological considerations:

1) Genre. What is the style of literature in Genesis 1?  Was it written by Moses to be a chronological, historic narrative to be taken literally (and for that fact scientifically) or was it an “epic poetry” illustrating that God “performed the creation as a perfect work, the greatest construction project of all time”?

2) Interpretation of “Day” (yom). Another issue that evangelical theologians wrestle with is the meaning of the Hebrew word yom or day.  Does it specifically refer to a 24-hour day or can it have a broader meaning?  Even if the majority of uses of the word “day” in Hebrew refer to a literal, 24-hour day, are there exceptions (“yes”), and could Genesis 1 be one of those exceptions?

Genesis 2. When we get to Genesis 2, there are several other things we need to consider.

1) Hebrew Narrative. When we get to Genesis 2:4, the Hebrew language very clearly shifts to a historical Hebrew narrative, especially in the verb forms (preterite with waw consecutives), that carries throughout the rest of the book.  Even if you don’t take Genesis 1 as a literal, historic, chronological account, when you get to Genesis 2:4 and beyond, how you interpret it impacts how you interpret the rest of Genesis, including the special creation of Adam and Eve and the introduction and impact of sin into the rest of the Biblical story.

2) Scope of Genesis 2.  Is the “scope” of Genesis 2 another vantage point on the overall creation account or is it focusing in specifically on the creation of humanity and life within the Garden of Eden?

  • How YEC & OEC Interpret the Creation Accounts in Genesis

Young Earth Creation. YEC conclude that the word “day” in Genesis 1 is to be taken literally as a 24-hour day, which leads to a literal, 6-day creation of the earth.  They will also go to the various genealogies throughout the Bible to conclude that Adam and Eve, the first humans, arrived on the scene some 6,000 years ago.

For further resources on YEC, see:

Old Earth Creation. Once again, OEC is an umbrella term for many different viewpoints that align with the possibility of a much older earth.

1) Gap-theory states that there is gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. There are several different view of what happened in that “gap,” but the basic gist of the gap-theory is that God created the heavens and earth (who knows how long ago), and then between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, something happened… perhaps the rebellion and fall of the archangel Satan and a cosmic war that resulted.  And this caused a cataclysmic judgment and destruction of the earth, so re-creation begins in 1:2.  This is a very speculative view.  For a good critique of the Gap Theory read Mark Rooker’s “Genesis 1:1-3 – Creation or Re-creation?”

2) Day-Age does not take “day” as a literal 24-hour day but as the possibility of an “age” especially since the sun isn’t even created until the fourth day in the Genesis 1 account.

3) Progressive Creation. This position holds that “God worked directly to create particular organisms over a long span of time” while still holding to the special creation of humanity.  Progressive creationists do not believe in macro-evolution that changes in organisms can create new species (i.e., they reject Darwinian biological evolution).

4) Literary Framework. Sees Genesis 1 as an epic poem not to be taken as a literal, chronological history.  This viewpoint pays special attention to the literary structure and symmetry of  (e.g., Day 1 the “space” is created, Day 4 it is filled.  Day 2 the “space” is created, Day 5 it is filled, etc.)… along with the repetition of specific phrases… “God said… God saw” etc. Those that take Genesis 1 as an epic poem must still deal with Genesis 2 and clear historical narrative nature of the Hebrew verb forms.  For a good article on this position, see Tim Keller’s “Creation, Evolution, and Christian Laypeople”

5) Historic Creation sees the creation accounts in Genesis 1 and 2 as only pertaining to the Garden of Eden.  From their viewpoint, Genesis 1 and 2 were never to be seen as a creation story of the whole heavens and earth.  See John Sailhamer’s exegetical notes on Genesis 1:1-2:4a

6) Summary/Special is a creative view that sees Genesis 1:1 as an overall, summary statement of God creating the heavens and the earth who knows how long ago, and then Genesis 1:2 and following is to be taken literally (including six literal days) as God specially preparing the earth for the habitation of humanity and the rest of created life.

For further resources on OEC, see:

QUESTION #3: So What? Why does all of this matter?  If we get so caught up in the proverbial trees and miss the forest, I believe that we’ve missed the whole purpose of Genesis 1 and 2.  Here are some final thoughts on why I believe discussion on origins and interpretations of the Bible’s creation accounts.

  • The Who of Creation. As we read the creation account in Genesis 1-2, we find that the story doesn’t tell us all we want to know about the how of creation, but it tells us everything that we need to know about the Who of Creation – God and His relationship with creation. The opening line of the story in Genesis 1:1, as the curtain rises on the stage, reveals to us the God that existed before anything or anyone else… and this God who is the eternal and all-powerful Creator King.
  • The God of New Beginnings. The backdrop to the whole book of Genesis is that it was written to give the people of Israel their bearings in a broken world… a people who had gone through hell (400 years of slavery), who had witnessed a miracle (escape and redemption from Egypt through the Red Sea), and who were at the doorway of a new beginning (the Promised Land).  And all of it points to the God of new beginnings… the God who is powerful, wise, and loving enough to get you where you need to go in a beautiful yet broken world.  The whole story calls us to come to and trust God in the midst of all of the beauty and even the brokenness of life.
  • God is dynamically present and active in creation and in our lives.  Ultimately I have a hard time accepting any naturalistic evolution or even theistic evolution that presents no direct hand from God in the process of humanity coming into existence.  The Bible never presents a God that removes Himself for billions of years… that seems much more like a deistic version of God.  On the contrary, the Bible always presents a loving, interested God who is dynamically and actively to His creation, especially the crown of His creation – humanity. This is best captured in Paul’s words in Colossians 1:13-20 (NASB).

For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities–all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

God not only created you, but He came to die for you, in your place… to rescue you from the sin and rebellion that we have committed against the Him.  And He invites you to come back home… to recognize Him as the all-loving, all-powerful Creator of heaven and earth and you!

You Asked For It #1: How Can I Trust the Bible?

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Here’s the audio for “How Can I Trust the Bible?” (January 10, 2010)

On Sunday, January 10, we launched our “You Asked For It” series with the first of eight questions: How can I trust the Bible?  The purpose of this post is to give you resources for further study and conversation as you explore this question more deeply on your own.   The message notes from Sunday’s sermon are also available.

Two great web resources that give an overview of the Doctrine on the Bible



A  good message that establishes the “Authority of the Bible” by Mark Dever (Senior Pastor, Capitol Hill Baptist Church, Washington, D.C.)

We covered 6 topics during the message.  And under each topic is the highlight of that topic with some further discussion, links to great articles on each topic, as well as book suggestions for further reading.

1) Revelation

God’s self-disclosure of Himself, His character, His will, and His plan of salvation.

2) Inspiration

“Inspiration is that supernatural influence of the Holy Spirit whereby the sacred writers were divinely supervised in their production of Scripture, being restrained from error and guided in the choice of words they used, consistently with their disparate personalities and stylistic peculiarities” (Carl Henry, “The Authority and Inspiration of the Bible” in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary, 1:25)

3) Inerrancy

Here’s a good definition of inspiration with inerrancy

“The inspiration of Scripture is the supernatural operation of the Holy Spirit who, through the different personalities and literary styles of the chosen human authors, invested the very words of the original books of holy Scripture, alone and in their entirety, as the very Word of God without error in all that they teach and is thereby the infallible rule and final authority for the faith and practice of all believers. In all literally means all, which includes history and science” (Ed Hinson and Ergun Caner, Popular Encyclopedia of Apologetics, 104, emphasis mine).

Inerrancy, edited by Norm Geisler

4) Transmission

The term “transmission” describes the ancient process of copying the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts to preserve them for future generations and to distribute them for greater use.  The 39 books of the OT were written between 1450 – 400 BC, and the 27 books of the NT were written between AD 40 – AD 90.  So let’s talk about how we get from the original documents that the Holy Spirit and the biblical authors wrote to the Hebrew and Greeks texts that we use today to translate our English Bibles

“Are the Biblical Documents Reliable?” (Probe Ministries)

A General Introduction to the Bible: From Ancient Tables to Modern Translations by David Ewert

5) Canonicity

The word “canon” means a measuring rod, much like a ruler. So when we use this word to explain how the books of the Bible were recognized as part of God’s Word, there was a rule and a standard that the books had to meet to be recognized as Scripture.  Note that I say “recognized” and not “decided upon.”  Semantics are very important here… the early church councils did not decide which books got in and which books didn’t.  They recognized which biblical books were already recognized affirmed within the community of faith.  Here are the standards and criteria that biblical books had to meet to be recognized as part of the Bible:

1. Authoritative.  Were they written by a prophet, king, judge or scribe of God in the OT or an apostle or based upon the eyewitness testimony to the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the NT.

2. Consistent. Is the book consistent with truth about God presented within the context of what the rest of Scripture teaches?

3. Dynamic. Has the book demonstrated God’s dynamic life-changing power in the lives of His people?

4. Received. Has the book been universally received and accepted by the people of God as Holy Scripture?

If you’re wondering why our Protestant Bible does not include the Apocrypha (which the Catholic Bible includes), read this article:

6) Translations

Your English Bible has been directly translated from the Hebrew and Greek texts, which once again, we believe to be very accurate renderings of the original, inspired and inerrant documents.

Here are the different types of translations:

1. Word for word translations makes a special effort to carefully interpret each word from the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek. The NASB, KJV, NKJV, ESV are word for word translations

2. Thought for thought translations attempts to convey the full nuance and idea of each passage while not paying specific attention to the word for word translation. The NIV is the best thought for thought English translation.

3. Paraphrase translations pay even less attention to specific word meanings in an attempt to capture the poetic or narrative essence of a passage.  The Living Bible and The Message are good examples of paraphrase translations.

“You Asked For It” Series at Northshore

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This Sunday, January 10, we are launching an 8-week message series called “You Asked For It.”  Throughout December many of you sent me great questions that you wrestle with, are perplexed by, and want further clarity.  Thanks for taking the time and effort to send me these questions.  I received questions about God, the Bible, theology, church, science, culture, and life in an imperfect world (plus many, many more).  I selected the top 8 categories of questions since many of the individual questions really fit within a larger question.  And here are the top 8 questions (drum roll please):

January 10 – “How can I trust the Bible?”

January 17 – “What’s the rub between the Bible and science?”

January 24 – “What is sin and why do I still struggle with it”?

January 31 – “Do I choose God or does God choose me?”

February 7 – “What’s going to happen in the end?”

February 14 – “What’s the Church’s role in politics?”

February 21 – “How can a good God allow suffering?”

February 28 – “What makes Jesus Christ and Christianity unique?”

As you can see, many of these questions are wrestled with and through by folks that are churched and unchurched alike.  Look through the different weeks of the series and think about a friend or family member that you could invite on a particular Sunday.  Every week, we will bring it back to the centrality of our faith… Jesus Christ and His glorious gospel.

A couple of final thoughts and “ground rules” about this series before we begin on Sunday:

1) This is going to be a great series to ponder more deeply the things of God and how we as the Church are called to respond to the things of God in a world that does not operate the “way it’s supposed to be.”  When we ponder the things of God, there will always be mystery.  We’re limited to a finite perspective because God is infinite and we’re not.  Therefore, we will approach each of these questions and attempts at answers with great humility.

2) I cannot and likely will not answer every question to everyone’s satisfaction.  I will give an overall theological and biblical “answer” to each question by wrestling through the larger question(s), by taking us to appropriate biblical passages, and by giving us the “boundaries” of what is appropriate for an evangelical theology.  I will attempt to address further issues in my blog after each message to share further insight, possibly more questions to wrestle with, and other resources to explore.

3) As much as I would like to answer every question that each of you sent me, time does not permit.  So if your questions were not picked in the top 8, please be gracious and don’t expect me to individually answer each one.  I would love if there were 48 hours in a day, but there aren’t.

4) Some of you will not agree with the conclusions that I come to… and that’s okay.  Once again, each week, I will give what I believe to be the boundaries that are appropriate within an evangelical, theological framework.  Another way to say this… we will not split Northshore over any of these issues.  There is “room at the table” within the boundaries.  I trust that any further dialogue and conversation that extends from each Sunday will be done with respect, civility, and humility… that goes for any discussion in person, in emails, on blogs, and Facebook posts and notes.  I’ll be a stickler on this one!

Thanks in advance for making this a great series, and may Jesus use our time each Sunday to show us more and more who He is, what He has done, and what He is doing “for His glory and our good.”

~ Pastor Jonathan


merry CHRISTmas… the tree of glory

As I have been saying to and praying for Northshore throughout the month of December, my great hope is that we don’t miss Jesus on Christmas day.  In the midst of all of the family, friends, and festivities, let your heart be drawn to the Christ of CHRISTmas.

This past Sunday, I preached on Isaiah 53, the Suffering Servant.  We began our time in the word together with a clip from A Charlie Brown Christmas.  Charlie Brown and Linus go and pick out that little, undesirable, unattractive Christmas tree.  And as that little tree makes its not-so-grand entrance into the auditorium, it (along with with Charlie Brown) is met with mockery, disbelief, and disappointment… the same reception that Jesus receives as He comes to this world, puts on flesh, and brings the rescue mission of God to us.  And this world receives Him with mockery, disbelief, and disappointment.

So… back to that little tree.  It’s the “tree of shame.”  There’s another tree of shame… the cross of Christ.  “and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed” (1 Peter 2:24).  And in the same way that the little Charlie Brown tree gets beautifully decorated at the end of the show, taking center stage as the kids and the singing fade out, so this Christmas and forevermore, the cross of Christ, the tree of shame and death, takes center stage and becomes glorious and beautiful as it is forever the symbol and reminder of Jesus giving His life for ours… bearing our sin fully so that we might be brought back to Him.  The tree of shame has become the tree of glory.

Don’t miss the Jesus who put on flesh to die on the tree for you.  And may His great grace and love carry you into this New Year!

merry CHRISTmas,



what do you desire?

as I watched A Charlie Brown Christmas and Charlie Brown and Linus go search for the “perfect tree” for their homespun Christmas play, I couldn’t help but think about Jesus and Isaiah 53.  the lights, the glitz, the pizazz is all pointing to those shiny, colorful, aluminum trees, and there in the midst of it all, is this little, undesirable, unattractive Christmas tree.  perhaps Charlie Brown is beginning to get the real meaning of Christmas.  and so does the prophet Isaiah as he heralds the coming of the Suffering Servant…

He has no stately form or majesty that we should be attracted to Him.  He was despised and forsaken of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and like one from whom men hide their face, He was despised, and we did not esteem Him (Isaiah 53:2-3).

so Charlie Brown returns with that bedraggled little tree, and he is ridiculed and mercilessly mocked… and so is his tree.  apparently that little tree didn’t meet the modern standards.  apparently the crowd desired something much more grand.

john oswalt in his commentary on isaiah (new international commentary on the old testament) writes this:

…a baby born in the back-stable of a village inn.  This would shake the Roman Empire?  A man quietly coming to the great preacher of the day and asking to be baptized.  This is the advent of the man who would be heralded as the Savior of the world?  No, this is not what we think the arm of the Lord should look like.  We were expecting a costumed drum major to lead our triumphal parade.  Our eyes are caught and satisfied by superficial splendor.  This man, says Isaiah, will have none of that.  As a result, our eyes flicker across him in a crowd and we do not even see him.  His splendor is not on the surface, and those who have no inclination to look beyond the surface will never even see him, much less pay him any attention.

two questions for you this CHRISTmas season: (1) will you miss Him as you’re looking for something else; and (2) what do you truly desire?

You Asked For It!

If you’re anything like me, you’ve got all of these questions about everything swirling around in your noggin. We have questions about God, about culture, about church, about theology, and about life in an imperfect world. And it’s hard to get adequate answers that satisfy our curiosity or our soul. And oftentimes it’s hard to have a good dialogue with anybody about these questions we wrestle with and ponder.

So… here’s an experiment that we’re going to try together. Throughout the month of the December, you are going to send me the questions that you wrestle with and think about, and I’m going to pick the Top 8 questions and spend one week per question each Sunday, January 10th through February 28th. Ask anything… and I’ll tally the results and pick the most popular and “ponderous” questions that you have. I want to help us figure out how to wrestle with difficult and deep topics with a Christ-centered, biblical, and theological worldview. It’s going to be a bit crazy and a lot of fun.

So you can send in your questions no later than December 31st in one of three ways:
1) email your questions to
2) ask a question through commenting on my “You Asked For It” note on Facebook (if we’re not “friends,” send me a request via Facebook)
3) ask a question through commenting on this “You Asked For It” blog post

This will also be a great series to invite family, friend, neighbors, co-workers, and students to. We’re going to wrestle with some deep stuff that most people in our world think about… and we’ll always take every question and every person to Jesus Christ.

Classic Christmas

(Warning: reliving an old school memory) I remember being in our “70s hip,” shag carpeted living room, sitting in footed pajamas on the floor with my special little blanket and waiting with that intense, slightly shaking anticipation for the “CBS Special” logo to twirl around the screen of our huge, furniture-esque Zenith television. And here’s why… once I heard and saw that logo, I knew what was coming next… the Charlie Brown Christmas special!!! I loved it then… and I love it now. It’s classic, and Charlie Brown’s question “What’s Christmas all about?” is as relevant today as it was in 1965 when the show first aired. We still haven’t figured it out as an American culture.

Throughout December, we’re going to explore the real meaning of Christmas using Charles Schultz’ A Charlie Brown Christmas and God’s Word. There are so many themes that this classic Christmas special presents for us to wrestle with as a culture. And just as God’s Word rights and re-centers us to the true meaning of Christmas—God with Us—so did Schultz. The climax of A Charlie Brown Christmas captures it all… little Linus ambling out center stage, bathed in a solitary spotlight with his blue security blanket telling us the real meaning of Christmas:

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, “Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.”

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,“Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men” (Luke 2:8-14)

This is the real meaning of Christmas, Charlie Brown. This is the real meaning of Christmas… God leaving heaven to become a helpless babe and put on the frailty of human flesh… out of love… to give us hope… for His glory. This December, bring your friends, family, neighbors, fellow students, co-workers to Northshore’s Sunday Services at 8:45 am, 10:45 am, or 5:45 pm. They will be fun, and they will point us all to the real meaning of Christmas.